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[NotSoSilentBob]

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Why do you think your insurance rates decrease as you get older??

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The AARP is by far the more powerful lobbie out there and the Old folk sure do turn up at the poles if insurence companys pulled the same stuff with older drivers as they do younger drivers they would probably be 200 or 300 bills past to stop it befor you could turn around.......That being said they are alot of bad drivers out there young and old doing a retest every so many years would probably not be a bad idea

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What in the blue [censored] does the AARP and the Polish have to do with insurance rates?

Older drivers are safer drivers. They know their limitations and never exceed them. Younger drivers, OTOH, will often exceed their limitations.

While I wouldn't support yearly retesting for those over 50 (maybe 70), I do think that drivers should be tested every 10 years (every second license renewal). People forget things, or get the details askew in their minds.

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Now that certainly makes more sense, and I agree that a periodic retesting should be done. 10 year intervals sound about right. Twice a year for those under the age of 30!!! [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Unchained]

Now you can't go generalizing the young group as uncourteous. Yeah, there is a healthy dose of that, but then again there's a healthy dose of elderly folks who are so hateful that even though you are sweet as sugar to them (I was taught to respect my elders, and have actually been snapped at tons of times simply for being nice), they are miserable, and feel that everybody in the world should be as miserable and hateful as them. But alas, we digress.

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My family went on a bus tour to Washington, D.C. a few years back in the early spring. Naturally, most of the folks on the tour were retiree age. When they saw 7 teenagers get on the bus, the blood left their face. My then 14 year old son spent most of his time watching out for the ladies and one old gentleman in particular, making sure they got in and out when and where they needed to. At the end of the tour, the guide stood up and made a speech about how well mannered our kids were, and how they were not of the norm (this guy's had PLENTY of experience there, you see!). The folks on the bus gave them a standing ovation. My wife was actually offended that those folks EXPECTED our kids to misbehave.
Around here, the kids are by-and-large respectful to their elders. But leave this region.......... [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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I don't think 50-69 are that big a hazard but you show me a driver 70+ and I will show you a road hazard (There are exceptions to the rule of couese but it is still true 90% of the time) Kids 16- 21,22 lack the experance to drive safly Seniors in there 70's 80's or 90's lack the moter skills and/or eye site/hearing. (My mother and her sisters do everything in there power to keep my Grandmother off the road since every ride is a fendor bendor or near miss) I am convinced that if allowed to drive she would not live to see 07

The thing that bothers me the most about elderly drivers is they will drive 45 in the passing lane because they know they have a left hand turn 27 miles down the road. If your not gonna drive the speed limit or higher stay in the slow lane!!

I just wish people would drive in the slow lane and pass in the passing lane, it would make things alot easier, The Beast is right if people from this area went to a place like Atlanta and drove like this it wouldn't be pretty. Any where else I go if i'm in the fast lane and come up on another driver they will get over and let me pass, that never happens around here.

[NotSoSilentBob]

There is no such thing as the 'slow lane' or the 'fast lane'. The speed limit in either lane is 55, 65, etc. The left lane is for passing only. It isn't a place for you to camp out if you're going 10 MPH faster than the flow of traffic.

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Here is a link that says what I was tring to much better than I can the info is from 1996 so it is alittle dated

here is gist of the info
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On the other hand, there's cause for concern when elderly people do drive because they have higher rates of fatal crashes per mile driven, per 100,000 people, and per licensed driver than any other group except young drivers.

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http://www.luhs.org/depts/injprev/Transprt/tran3.htm

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Relatively few deaths of elderly people--1 percent or fewer--involve motor vehicles. Cancer, heart disease, and stroke are the leading causes of death among people 65 years and older. Fewer elderly people are licensed to drive, compared with younger groups, and they drive fewer miles per licensed driver.

On the other hand, there's cause for concern when elderly people do drive because they have higher rates of fatal crashes per mile driven, per 100,000 people, and per licensed driver than any other group except young drivers. A problem is that elderly drivers don't deal as well as younger ones with complex traffic situations, and multiple-vehicle crashes at intersections increase markedly with age. Elderly drivers are more likely to get traffic citations for failing to yield, turning improperly, and running stop signs and red lights.

Once they're in crashes, elderly people are more susceptible than younger people to medical complications following motor vehicle crash injuries. This means they're more likely to die from their injuries.

The following facts are based on analysis of data from the U.S. Department of Transportation's Fatality Analysis Reporting System:

7,078 people 65 years and older died in motor vehicle crashes in 1996, 1 percent more than in 1995 and 32 percent more than in 1975.
Eighty percent of elderly deaths in 1996 motor vehicle crashes were passenger vehicle occupants, and 17 percent were pedestrians.
People 65 years and older represented 13 percent of the population in 1996 and 17 percent of motor vehicle deaths. By 2030, elderly people are expected to represent 20 percent of the population.
Population, Mileage, and Licensure Rates

People age 70 and older have more motor vehicle deaths per 100,000 people than other groups except people younger than 25.
Per mile driven, drivers 75 years and older have higher rates of fatal motor vehicle crashes than drivers in other age groups except teenagers.
Per licensed driver, fatal crash rates rise sharply at age 70 and older.
Crash Types

About half of fatal crashes involving drivers 80 years and older occur at intersections and involve more than one vehicle. This compares with 23 percent among drivers up to age 50.
People 75 years and older have the highest pedestrian death rates per 100,000 people.
At age 80 and older, the pedestrian death rate per 100,000 among men is more than 3 times as high as at age 79 and younger.
Gender Differences

The motor vehicle death rate per 100,000 people begins to rise among males at age 65. By age 80 and older, the rate among men is more than twice as high as it is at age 40-74.
At all ages, males have much higher motor vehicle death rates per 100,000 people compared with females. By age 85 and older, the rate is more than 3 times as high among men as among women.

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People age 70 and older have more motor vehicle deaths per 100,000 people than other groups except people younger than 25.
Per mile driven, drivers 75 years and older have higher rates of fatal motor vehicle crashes than drivers in other age groups except teenagers.

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Kind of what I was saying..........

[The_Sage]

You have 7 TEENS?? or did? ha